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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
[edit]CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
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Closing procedure
[edit]After seven days, an administrator (or possibly a non-admin) will determine if consensus has formed, and close the discussion. If appropriate, the discussion instead may be relisted to allow for more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented. As noted at Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions, non-admins may follow the process at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working, and list discussion results there for an admin to review, and to log to the page directly.
Discussions awaiting closure
[edit]- List of links to individual open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Old unclosed discussions - updated by User:AnomieBOT
- Full text of all open discussions (>7 days old): Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/All old discussions - powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- List of days with open discussions (>7 days old): included below from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Awaiting closure – powered by a Lua module parsing /Old unclosed discussions
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 12 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 5 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 1 (1 open)
How to nominate a category for discussion
[edit]Nomination procedure
[edit]Twinkle
[edit]You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
[edit]You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
[edit]| I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
| II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
[edit]| I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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| II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
[edit]In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2025 April 21|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}} - List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 21:31, 19 April 2025 (UTC). Currently, there are 72 open requests ().
 | Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- REDIRECT Category:Footballers from Temperley to Category:Footballers from Temperley, Argentina – C2D, C2C per parent nominated below – Fayenatic London 21:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Gelo songs to Category:LiAngelo Ball songs – C2D: Gelo is a pseudonym. Main article is at LiAngelo Ball. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Singaporean Judges of Appeal to Category:Singaporean judges of appeal – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 18:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Judicial Commissioners of Singapore to Category:Judicial commissioners of Singapore – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 18:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Merchant ships of Georgia to Category:Merchant ships of Georgia (country) – C2B. 1857a (talk) 15:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Gentlemen's clubs in Georgia to Category:Gentlemen's clubs in Georgia (U.S. state) – C2B. 1857a (talk) 15:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Georgian bankers to Category:Bankers from Georgia (country) – C2C: per convention in Category:People from Georgia (country) by occupation. 1857a (talk) 15:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Cook County Treasurers to Category:Cook County treasurers – C2B, per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 15:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Works by `Abdu'l-Bahá to Category:Works by ʻAbdu'l-Bahá – C2D: per ʻAbdu'l-Bahá. 1857a (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Seasons in Superisligaen to Category:Metal Ligaen seasons – C2D: C2C/C2D: Metal Ligaen; other Category:Seasons in European ice hockey by league Kaffet i halsen (talk) 14:11, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Superisligaen to Category:Metal Ligaen – C2D: Metal Ligaen Kaffet i halsen (talk) 14:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Nathan Solomon Joseph buildings to Category:Nathan S. Joseph buildings – C2D: per Nathan S. Joseph. 1857a (talk) 12:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Babenberg to Category:House of Babenberg – C2D: Per newly renamed House of Babenberg. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:John Douglas buildings to Category:John Douglas (English architect) buildings – C2D: per John Douglas (English architect). 1857a (talk) 04:05, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Applying Wikipedia:Category names#Architecture plus C2D (disambiguation and all) results in a really ugly construction in this case. It would be better if Wikipedia:Category names#Architecture switched from its current recommendation of "[Architect] buildings" to "Buildings by [architect]", which would bring it in line with the visual arts subsection of Wikipedia:Category names#Works of art categories by artist (and its subsections for most other art forms). Ham II (talk) 14:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Greek communities in Georgia to Category:Greek communities in Georgia (country) – C2C: parent is Ethnic groups in Georgia (country) SMasonGarrison 03:05, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Merseyside to Category:Sportspeople by populated place in Merseyside – C2C: parent is People by populated place and occupation in Merseyside SMasonGarrison 23:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:People from Temperley to Category:People from Temperley, Argentina – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 22:47, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- We can redirect this as Temperley (disambiguation) has no other populated places. – Fayenatic London 21:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Footballers by city or town in Romania to Category:Romanian footballers by populated place – C2C: norm is FOOian footballers by populated place Category:Association football players by country and populated place SMasonGarrison 21:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Europe 10,000 Challenge to Category:WikiProject Europe 20,000 Challenge – C2D: From Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge to now Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 20,000 Challenge. JeBonSer (talk) 14:46, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject Europe's 10,000 Challenge to Category:Articles created or improved during WikiProject Europe's 20,000 Challenge – C2D: From Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge to now Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 20,000 Challenge. JeBonSer (talk) 14:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Culture in Strasbourg to Category:Culture of Strasbourg – C2C: most French city categories in Category:Works set in France by city use "of". Marcocapelle (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Alumni by education schools to Category:Alumni by education school – C2A: The Y in "X by Y" is singular. Paul_012 (talk) 09:21, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Suggest full discussion so we can find some way to avoid the ambiguity over school they were educated at and school that teaches education. I think "education schools" is probably grasping at that distinction. Jahaza (talk) 20:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Birds of the Patkai to Category:Birds of the Purvanchal Range – the Patkai is only the top half of these birds' range of presence (cf. BirdLife link) --Couiros22 (talk) 06:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have only tagged the category now Ymblanter (talk) 07:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Academic staff of FOM University of Applied Sciences for Economics and Management to Category:Academic staff of FOM University of Applied Sciences – After the postponement of the article by the university itself. Common name is enough. 2A02:8070:782:E620:68DA:9006:E81C:FD1F (talk) 06:07, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:FOM University of Applied Sciences for Economics and Management to Category:FOM University of Applied Sciences – After the postponement of the article by the university itself. Common name is enough. 2A02:8070:782:E620:68DA:9006:E81C:FD1F (talk) 06:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:The Crusaders members to Category:The Crusaders (jazz fusion group) members – C2D: Per The Crusaders (jazz fusion group). Mike Selinker (talk) 03:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Rochester Yellowjackets (NJCAA) football players to Category:Rochester C&T Yellowjackets football players – C2C: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 8#Category:RCTC Yellowjackets. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 00:26, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:RCTC Yellowjackets athletes to Category:Rochester C&T Yellowjackets athletes
- Category:RCTC Yellowjackets track and field to Category:Rochester C&T Yellowjackets track and field
- Category:RCTC Yellowjackets men's track and field athletes to Category:Rochester C&T Yellowjackets men's track and field athletes
- Category:Lemmas in analysis to Category:Lemmas in mathematical analysis – C2C: see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 12#Category:Theorems in analysis. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Massachusetts judges to Category:20th-century Massachusetts state court judges – C2C: parent is Massachusetts state court judges SMasonGarrison 23:47, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Medaille College to Category:Medaille University – C2D SportsGuy789 (talk) 23:07, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:IF Troja/Ljungby players to Category:IF Troja-Ljungby players – C2D: IF Troja-Ljungby Kaffet i halsen (talk) 23:06, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Historical fencing to
Category:Historical European martial arts– C2D: per Historical European martial arts. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:46, 19 April 2025 (UTC)- Oppose This changes the scope of the category, and the proposed target is already the parent cat. The main article seems to be "history of fencing". 1857a (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @1857a: that makes sense. Then I am proposing to change the target to Category:History of fencing. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose This changes the scope of the category, and the proposed target is already the parent cat. The main article seems to be "history of fencing". 1857a (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- None currently
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- None currently
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- None currently
Ready for deletion
[edit]Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.
Empty categories awaiting deletion
[edit]The categories listed below have been identified as empty using {{db-catempty}}, and will be speedily deleted after 7 days unless populated. (Note: Due to technical limitations, all contents of the category may not be displayed; view the category directly to see all contents.)